Blog Layout

252 – Terror In The Skies: Hunting Thunderbirds & Truth With Seth Breedlove

ajornlin • June 21, 2019

My skeptical take on the Chicagoland Mothman flap has confounded some, but thankfully Seth Breedlove from Small Town Monsters decided to include an interview with me in his new film anyway. Entitled Terror in the Skies , the documentary explores historic and contemporary reports of winged weirdies over Illinois. At the time of this writing, Terror in the Skies has recently become the # 1 documentary film new release on Amazon Prime.

A poster for the # 1 documentary film on amazon

So why did Seth include me in his newest movie? I definitely should have asked him that question! We’ll maybe because he understands that I’m not actually a noisy negativist, as we joke about in this interview. Maybe he understands that I really care about the advancement of the paranormal field and that’s why my expectations are high.

I do expect investigators to check witness statements against basic facts. Far from excluding the incredible, vetting witness reserves an important a place for the truth, above and beyond the everyday muck. If every claim is treated the same and given the same importance, you’ve uncovered nothing but mud. It becomes nearly impossible to tell what is real and what is a hoax.

If something truly incredible has occurred, you better believe those who protect the status quo will try to hide it in plain sight. Just how do they do that? Disinformation.

Authentic phenomena may have occurred during this Chicagoland Mothman flap, but how will we ever know? How will we ever find the proverbial needle in the haystack, if the haystack itself is entirely constructed of momentarily convincing replicas, but ultimately fake needles?

A bunch of people are playing in a pile of papers
Seeking an authentic needle in a haystack of convincing look-alikes? Good luck! It’s a mess!

That’s how disinformation works. It’s simple. It’s easy. It’s cheap. It’s effective. And it may be what has occurred here.

Perhaps most telling is that not one supposed witness to the Chicagoland Mothman came forward to be interviewed for Terror in the Skies. Elsewhere in the film witnesses share testimony about Thunderbird sightings. Even so many years later, several witnesses still participated in Small Town Monsters’ Mothman of Point Pleasant , appearing on-camera to contributing their eye-witnesses statements. It bears remembering that over 100 witnesses bravely attested publicly to their encounters during the original 1966-67 flap.

So what could that one true anomaly in this mess of the Lake Michigan Mothman saga have been? What might at least one of the reported witnesses actually have seen?

Nearly 20 years ago I interviewed Wisconsin witnesses reporting encounters with strange creatures with impossibly large wingspans. Is history repeating itself? Might these manifestations follow a cyclical pattern? Is there a migratory route that spans Illinois, Wisconsin, and other states.

This certainly comes up in our conversation with Seth in several instances. For example, we discuss the 1977 Marlon Lowe Lawndale, IL case as well as a very similar newspaper report from 1909 in St. Charles, IL. In both cases, birds of unusual size attempt to carry away unsuspecting children playing just outside their homes.

A black and white newspaper article titled fights big eagle to save baby boy
The Post-Crescent (Appleton, Wisconsin), May 3, 1909

Another example hits even closer to home. Kevin Walkowski, my very own cousin and Mike’s godfather had his own sighting in 1988. I interviewed him and contributed his story to several books including Weird Wisconsin. Kevin’s description which compared the wingspan of this massive bird to a Piper Cub plane still resonates in my memory and was echoed in a witness statement from the Illinois Big Bird flap of 1948 featured in Terror in the Skies.

A newspaper article about alton man sees a monster bird
Belvidere Daily Republican, April 26, 1948
Kevin Walkowski describes the size of a possible Thunderbird he spotted in the skies over Brookfield, WI in 1988. We recorded his recollections on video in 2015. I plan to make the full video available on at http://www.youtube.com/mothman. Subscribe to get a notification.

In fact, tales of such anomalies extend into the prehistory of the Midwest and can still be seen in petroglyphs and vibrant tribal traditions. Something strange flies in Midwestern skies. Keep your eyes on the skies and those patterns that repeat throughout history and we may just uncover something authentic yet extraordinary.

Watch me and Troy Taylor in Terror in the Skies. Listen to this episode. Then visit me, Mike, and Wendy Lynn at Troy Taylor’s Haunted America Conference this weekend. As usual, Mike and Wendy will be bringing the paranormal rock, and this year I’ll be speaking about Midwestern cases of poltergeists and demonic possession.

The song this week is inspired by Seth’s movie and the fantastic legends of the “Thunderbird”!

From the four winds
I’m flying
in your visions
i’m fighting
From the mountain you’ll hear my voice in the storm
voice of the storm

The battle’s harbinger
The spirit’s messenger
The cloudburst in my eye
To Honor the fallen and punish evil men
I am here to break the sky’

You can crush my bones
and you can pound my head
take me so far from home
and just leave me for dead
But when I spread my wings
with the lightning burn
I am the flood and fire
The Thunderbird

The serpent rises
I’ll attack
Terror in the skies
I’ll be back
On the horizon you might see my wings in the storm
wings of the storm

The battle’s harbinger
The spirit’s messenger
The cloudburst in my eye
To Honor the fallen and punish evil men
I am here to break the sky’

You can crush my bones
and you can pound my head
take me so far from home
and just leave me for dead
But when I spread my wings
with the lightning burn
I am the flood and fire
The Thunderbird

Jazz and Voodoo
February 9, 2025
Explore the birthplace of jazz and the history of voodoo in New Orleans. Discover how music and mysticism shaped the city's unique cultural fusion.
By Mike Huberty January 30, 2025
Join us for a haunting night of history, spirits, and spirits! Experience Chicago's most notorious gangster history on this unique Valentine's Day pub crawl that combines chilling tales, craft cocktails, and unforgettable sites from the city's bloody past. Event Details: Date: Friday, February 14th, 2025 and Saturday, February 15th, 2025 Time: 8:00 PM - 10:30 PM Starting Location: Chicago Oven Grinder (1850 N Lincoln Ave) Tour Highlights: - Start your evening at the historic Chicago Oven Grinder, built from the remnants of a building that once housed Al Capone's lookout spot - Visit the original site of the infamous St. Valentine's Day Massacre, where seven men met their tragic end in 1929 - See the Biograph Theater, where legendary gangster John Dillinger had his final showdown with the FBI 
By Mike Huberty January 27, 2025
Lake Geneva Winter Ghost Walk - Winterfest Special Tour Experience the haunted history of Lake Geneva in its most atmospheric season during this special 45-minute Winterfest walking tour. Tour Details - Date: January 31, 2025 - Duration: 45 minutes - Times: 6, 7, 8, 9pm - Price: $12 per person - Meet at: Lake Geneva Public Library (918 W Main St, Lake Geneva, WI 53147)
A ghostly photo of a child looking downward
January 13, 2025
Master essential ghost hunting techniques with expert tips on equipment, safety, and investigation methods. Start your paranormal journey like a pro today.
Haunted in Illinois
January 13, 2025
Discover Illinois' eeriest locations, from Chicago's infamous Resurrection Mary to Aurora's haunted roundhouse. Explore real ghost stories and paranormal hotspots.
Bachelor's Grove Cemetery
By Scott Markus December 20, 2024
Explore Chicago's most haunted burial ground, where the mysterious Madonna of Bachelors Grove still walks. Uncover century-old paranormal encounters and ghostly tales.
Vampire lore in French Quarter, New Orleans
December 20, 2024
Uncover centuries of vampire lore in New Orleans, from blood-curdling tales of the French Quarter to haunting legends of immortal beings that still captivate the city today.
los angeles stars and benches
December 1, 2024
Explore California's most haunted places, from eerie hotels to ghost towns. Discover chilling stories and paranormal activity at top spooky locations. Join our California Ghost Tours if you dare!
By Cassie Carpenter November 29, 2024
Paranormal Investigations at The Oman House in Los Angeles
By Mike Huberty November 25, 2024
🍺 👻 Unearth the supernatural side of Waukesha's historic taverns! Step into a world where history meets mystery on our exclusive three-hour haunted pub crawl through downtown Waukesha. This uniquely crafted experience blends spine-tingling paranormal investigation with the warm ambiance of historic Wisconsin taverns. Your Supernatural Adventure Includes: VIP access to 2-3 of Waukesha's most haunted pubs Exclusive entry to off-limits areas normally closed to the public 45 minutes at each location for: Professional-guided paranormal investigations Chilling tales of supernatural encounters Time to enjoy your favorite spirits (the liquid kind!) Fascinating historical commentary between venues  What Makes This Tour Special: As you walk the historic streets between venues, our expert guides will weave tales of Waukesha's rich past, connecting the supernatural experiences of today with the city's colorful history. Each carefully selected pub holds its own collection of unexplained phenomena, witnessed by staff and patrons alike. Whether you're a skeptic, believer, history buff, or simply looking for an extraordinary afternoon, this tour offers a perfect blend of socializing and supernatural exploration. Come discover why these establishments continue to attract visitors from both this world and the next.
More Posts
Share by: